4 Pinot Noirs, 4 Regions - This Blind Tasting Didn’t Go as Expected!

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @vincentjugeau-hilding3586
    @vincentjugeau-hilding3586 Месяц назад +4

    Salwey!!!! Amazing producers!
    I had their GG Hekenberg, we were all loving it, such a beautiful wine!!❤

  • @marknelson8724
    @marknelson8724 Месяц назад +3

    You did well in this blind tasting. You got two right and had good reasons for your other guesses that turned out wrong. I love the occasional blind tasting as it keeps me humble.

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад +1

      Yes, blind tastings always keeps You humble, true! 😅

  • @conqueror-w3
    @conqueror-w3 Месяц назад +2

    Very impressed with your ability to distinguish between these. Here in the USA I was not surprised the Oregon wine surprised you. Sadly for us, although we love a nice Pommard, they are quite a bit more expensive than what we find for $50 from the Pacific northwest at the same high quality. One we like is: Dundee Hills Estate Pinot Noir Oregon, Willamette Valley- "Hand-crafted by fourth generation winemaker, Veronique Drouhin-Boss, the distinctive Pinot Noirs and Chardonnays of Domaine Drouhin are prized for their elegance, balance and finesse, as well as their ability to age. Robert Parker 96 Points -The 2019 Pinot Noir Dundee Hills is defined, expressive and layered, with pure lavender, peppercorn and wild berry aromas and a velvety texture with bursts of freshness that highlight floral perfume and an array of spicy accents on the extended finish."

  • @nichotime
    @nichotime Месяц назад +2

    Such great expressions and gestures. Vivid and skilled. Great!

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  28 дней назад

      So very sweet of You, thank You. 🙏🏻

  • @welshtoro3256
    @welshtoro3256 Месяц назад +3

    Well done Agnes, that was a lot of fun. Excellent tasting notes too. I do like a Pinot. I'm going to mention a country (guess which one) that has been imported a lot of varieties and all I'll say is watch this space. I am of course referring to Spain. I recently ordered a Pinot Noir and Chardonnay from Somontano and it's been planted in Andalusia too. They're bottling 100% Petit Verdot as well and I recently had a bottle of that made by a fiercely committed biodynamic producer based in Cordoba. Spain is made for that kind of production. I've met a number of growers that assure me that the land and climate is tailor made for typically French varieties. They have to back that up with generations of French winemaking knowledge of course but they are confident.
    I've said it many times that Spanish wine has been transformed in the last twenty years to the most interesting and dynamic wine region on the planet. Not only have they rediscovered their own natural varieties and brought them back to the world, they've also turned Tempranillo into one of the world's great varieties with countless excellent wines from Rioja, Ribera and other regions. Spain was also at the forefront of transforming wine labels and bringing them into the modern world. The next stage is biodynamic wine, which I'm sure they will be a force, along with the development of the French varietals they are working with. As I said, watch this space.

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад +1

      We will! I agree, Spain has so much to offer, and the indigenous grape varieties are so varied - it is really interesting topic to explore. I also enjoy a lot wines from the coastal areas of Spain - they have nice saline depth to them! Cheers! 🥂

  • @royrosas118
    @royrosas118 Месяц назад +3

    Enjoyed your episode and was guessing alongside. I guessed Oregon and Otago -- I have had many Oregon Pinots with the lively acidity you described and especially so with Resonance. The peppermint notes you picked up from the last hinted at Central Otago for me, it's one of those I haven't picked up from Oregon Pinots. The dusty tannnins sounded about right for a Burg, and I learned a new thing about German Pinots from your video! Thank you!

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад +1

      Wow, that so interesting, I wonder if we can make a fun video idea out of this! But it sounds like You know really well Your Pinot Noir! 🍷 Cheers!

    • @royrosas118
      @royrosas118 Месяц назад

      @@NoSedimentnot really, still have a lot to learn, just that after a while you notice patterns. And always fun to be surprised of exceptions!

  • @solomonmengeu1003
    @solomonmengeu1003 Месяц назад +1

    Great tasting and video Agnes. You shouldn't give yourself a hard time that you mixed up the Oregon and Central Otago wines, I think Pinot Noir is quite tricky and defies being put into tidy boxes. As you have to account for terroir, clone types, picking dates/methods, fermentation approach, aging and the list goes on. It was nice to see a wide selection of PNs and it showcases the diversity of styles and tastes and also that Europe mimics the Southern Hemisphere and the U.S. and vice versa. These type of videos are great indicator of quality wine making, as I'm pretty sure that all 4 of these wineries have great Pinots at the entry and mid-level price points. Cheers!

  • @changliow7747
    @changliow7747 Месяц назад +2

    I think you did pretty well. Maybe next time smell through all the wines 1st before tasting them to remove any biases from the palate… especially for wines that are terroir driven.

  • @Petazzi1
    @Petazzi1 Месяц назад +3

    Huge fan of Salways attempt. Their pittoresk tasting room also helps..

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад +1

      I have never visited them, sounds like I should! 🍷 Cheers!

  • @apistosig4173
    @apistosig4173 Месяц назад +2

    Wonderful presentation. When Pinot Noir arrived here (in AUSTRALIA) it seemed every wine maker was doing completely different things with this new grape - including a sparkling varient. Yeah, there were some, hmm hmm, really interesting wines! Eventually they realised how the grape needed to be handled and things improved from there. Pinot Noir is a variety I took to very slowly - it took the first decently produced wine I encountered - which happened to be from Babich, New Zealand. I encountered numerous Pinot's while travelling through Hungary - who'd have thought 8 to 10 Euros would fetch you a great wine. These days my Pinot Noir benchmark is produced by Pooley, Tasmania.

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад +1

      I think You are correct, as I mentioned in the video - it is a finicky grape and the best results show those who know and have experience working with it! 🍷

  • @adismadi9395
    @adismadi9395 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for the honest vid. It was very informative and enjoyable.
    Good to watch some really great wine enthusiast blind tasting wines every now and then without ending up with 100% correct answers every single time ;)

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад

      Hahaha, in my case - I select the wines, so it is not completely blind. Semi-blind, I would say. A completely blind tasting could go really wrong. 😑 I am guessing not everyone would feel comfortable sharing that on video! 🥲

  • @mepo90189
    @mepo90189 Месяц назад +5

    Very nice tasting, looking forward to the all Burgundy episode.

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад

      Thank You! Very sweet’ 🍷

  • @glennjohnson4919
    @glennjohnson4919 28 дней назад +1

    I keep being admonished, “you should love Pinot noir, the sophisticate of wine.” They can be good, but give me a nice Syrah or Bordeaux varietal or blend (French or not) anytime. Very impressed by your knowledge and palette, I have tried and failed often at discriminating wines by taste.

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  6 дней назад

      Please do not listen to wine snobs, if You are willing to experiment and find something You like - perfect. If, however, You already know the style that brings You pleasure and enjoyment, why would You trade that? 😉 Wine world is so vast - it would be very boring if we all liked the same wine! 🍷

  • @Ruirspirul
    @Ruirspirul Месяц назад +8

    lets be honest here, only reason people think they can identify Pinots even from single vineyards is because, if you want to become a sommelier or any other wine related professional, academia will make sure you know every single square meter in Burgundy by heart and exactly what type of stone is rolling on top of it. in other word, it is already decided on what people get educated on. edit: loved the video! sometime we learn more with wines that are not guessed right!

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад +1

      Completely agree, often times it is the mistakes that we make that teach us the most! 🍷

    • @CoFFEEmaTT123
      @CoFFEEmaTT123 Месяц назад

      I was thinking Resonance when you gave your impressions of the first wine. I tasted at resonance this spring and was surprised at how tannic and bright the wines were, even after a decade. They weren’t very generous. I couldn’t see a path to real pleasure for them. But just my 2 cents. I think you did a great job! You are one of the best real time, blind tasters to listen to on YT.

  • @tonygallo1104
    @tonygallo1104 Месяц назад +1

    You are great! I would like to see another with less expensive wines. My budget doesn’t afford me to drink 65-90 dollar wines... I understand Pinot needs to be in a higher price range but perhaps 30/35-50. Tops...

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад

      It is a very good point and I will definitely keep that in mind. In this specific video the emphasis was on terroir therefore the premium price category. But You are absolutely correct that is very expensive. 🙏🏻

  • @holyfox94
    @holyfox94 23 дня назад +1

    Had a true awakening experience with a Pinot from Franconia. 2018 Centgrafenberg from Fürst. Exceptional.

  • @tarekhamid3882
    @tarekhamid3882 Месяц назад +1

    Hello Agnes:
    Many thanks for your time and effort to educate and entertain… another beautiful, informative video.
    And (for me) TIMELY !
    Just concluded my own “experiment” of Pinot’s… that was a bit more extensive (because I had more time). Like you, I found significant differences… and a few surprises. For example:
    o The most interesting Burgundy was a Volnay (Marquis d’Angerville)… not a Chambolle.
    o Australia (Tolpuddle) topped New Zealand
    o And, here in the US: Santa Barbara (Brewer Clifton) topped both Oregon and Napa

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад

      Marquis d’Angerville is a stunning producer, I have no doubt their wine stood out. It has been a long time since I tasted anything from them. 🥲 sounds like You had a beautiful tasting! I hope You enjoyed every bottle of it! 🍷

  • @hnurminen
    @hnurminen Месяц назад +1

    Salwey is one of my all time favourite producers! Fortunately, I have quite a few bottles from them in my cellar starting from 2007, I believe, and they do age nicely.

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад +1

      Nice to know I choose one of the best producers to represent German Pinot Noir. It seems to me that many love their wines! 🍷🍷🍷 Cheers!

  • @baggrabb
    @baggrabb Месяц назад +1

    Really well-conceived and well executed BT video! Thoroughly enjoyed it. I’m buying/drinking more and more OR pinot noirs, mainly because they have some Burgundian characteristics but are more affordable. The range of producers and results there are broad, for sure. Learned a lot from this tasting, though!

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  28 дней назад +1

      Thank You. I wish I could get more OR Pinot Noir, it is still relatively difficult to come by here. And usually larger brands are represented, or those that have links in Europe, like Resonanse. 🥲

    • @baggrabb
      @baggrabb 28 дней назад

      @@NoSediment Yes wine is a local product. I'm in Northern California, so much great wine within a day's drive of me...I'm increasingly focusing on the more local wines, and buying fewer imports. Fortunately you have some of the best wine regions in the world close at hand, too! Cheers

  • @kareltimmerman
    @kareltimmerman Месяц назад +1

    Merci Agnese, i think wine number 3 was a good wine.... (it was half way empty...) for me it was always difficult to rate a pinot noir, because for my home made Salmon a pinot noir is a good choice, and aswell for the home made Duck... Like you explained, with the good care, you can transform this fragile grape in a divine wine. What do you think, is it knowledge and care, or region which makes this wine a amazing experience....?

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад +1

      I think it is both - without good and healthy terroir (place) grapes couldn’t reach the quality potential. And without wise winemaker - wine would easily end up into a vinegar. You need both for a great wine. 🍷

  • @QualeQualeson
    @QualeQualeson Месяц назад +4

    On one of my first Pinots, I noted: "perhaps atypical". But since then I've started to think that it's typical Pinot to be atypical, which fits with your intro.
    For fun, I'd like to share a line from the Falstaff review of the 2020 Salwey: _"A very potent wine in its embryonic stage"._ How dare you drink it when it's in its embryonic state Agnese? 😅
    And finally: Check out the pronunciation of "epitome". You might get another surprise 😊
    We enjoyed this video.

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад

      O M G, another fail from my side - it is pronounced completely differently. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ And yes, descriptions like these are fun to read, yet, I am still on the side that supports that great wine can be drunk when young as well! 🍷

  • @mondarinvino107
    @mondarinvino107 Месяц назад +1

    Interesting tasting. Could you comment on the alcohol levels of these wines, and was this a factor that played a role in your blind tasting calls?

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад

      I think they were all very similar, 13.0-13.5% I don’t remember, and it definitely didn’t play a role for me. When there are no spikes (very high or unusually low) it doesn’t give You much information. 😞

  • @sorensorensen5755
    @sorensorensen5755 Месяц назад +1

    Hi Agnes. Once again a very good presentation. In regards to Bourgogne. I have tried Volnay that tasted blind I would have guessed that it was from Pommard and vise versa. Usually Pommard wines are affected by the iron in the Pommard soil. When they drew the village lines between Pommard and Volnay they must not have looked into the composition of the terroir? 🍷😀

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад +1

      This premier cru site - Clos Blanc actually has slightly different soil composition from rest of the Pommard, and has more limestone in it, apparently. And it used to be more planted with grapes - hence the name. So I guess it might be one of few reasons it was so different from other Pommard wines. 🤓

  • @50somethinglawyer
    @50somethinglawyer Месяц назад +1

    Well if you got it right every time I'd begin to wonder if it genuinely was blind! Great video, thank you! With the prices of Burgundy reaching absurd levels I need to look for other areas to source good pinot noir and this video is part of my research for doing so.

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад

      Hahaha, sorry for that. It was not my first mistake on camera though. I did bad in the blind tasting of several vintages of Barolo wines (this is why I haven’t done this tasting again). Maybe just lately I was being extra lucky.

  • @carlcadregari7768
    @carlcadregari7768 Месяц назад +1

    Great video. Interesting that the NZ wasn’t under screw cap. All the Cloudy Bay I’ve seen here is. PN is in my top 5 favorite black grapes for me. Cheers.

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад +1

      I would guess that it was the price point due to which it was decided to bottle it under a natural cork. Sometimes even the most dedicated screw cup fans (winemakers) will bottle their premium wines under natural cork, as it is made for a completely different consumer type.

  • @richardando7081
    @richardando7081 Месяц назад +1

    I am taken by your presentation filled with passion and exuberance, and wondering if you could do a segment on sagrantino.

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад

      Thank You’ 🙏🏻 Wow, that is very specific. But I have been looking for options to travel to southern Italy, hopefully this coming year so we can finally make a video on these less discovered grape varieties. 🍷🍷🍷

  • @hatchegg80
    @hatchegg80 Месяц назад +1

    pommard has a big stylistic change, very floral, sometimes more so than volnay, eg heitz-lochardet, jean michel gaunoux ...

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад

      I think I already commented under this video already, that specific premier cru (clos blanc) has a very unique terroir and quite different from rest of the Pommard. But I loved it a lot. Ot was great wine! 🍷

  • @prccap
    @prccap Месяц назад +2

    Oregon always gives me a big Cola note in tastings

  • @seminky5341
    @seminky5341 Месяц назад +1

    Hah! I just had the pommard last week. You are absolutely right, swirl and sniff kind of wine. Its good!

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад

      I loved this one, it was so smooth and beautiful. 🍷

  • @Colin-o9b
    @Colin-o9b Месяц назад +1

    Best Pinot Noir Video Ever Agnese ❤🎉 🍷🍷🍷🍷 You're so sweet and entertaining!

  • @ruud24k
    @ruud24k Месяц назад +1

    @3:46, before seeing the actual tasting. I'm guessing Baden is going to blow your socks off. It's my favourite wine region right now 😍
    @13:08. Nooo my Fav didn't win it :(
    Really fun video Agnes! Good job :)

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад +1

      Sorry for that, we all have preferences of our own, and please don’t make my judgement of wine ruin in any way what You like and enjoy the best. 🍷 It was a great wine, I really liked it, it is just that I liked Oregon and Pommard more! 🙈😂

  • @fabiomacedo1681
    @fabiomacedo1681 Месяц назад +2

    You could've included one from Santa Barbara, for contrast

    • @marknelson8724
      @marknelson8724 Месяц назад

      Santa Barbara, Russian River Valley, Marlborough and also Australia and Chile seem to be making progress with their Pinots. I probably left out somewhere that belongs in this game...

  • @葉子安-e7r
    @葉子安-e7r Месяц назад +1

    Good job!

  • @juanmanuelmunozhernandez7032
    @juanmanuelmunozhernandez7032 Месяц назад +1

    The tricky thing with pinot noir for me (but I'm light years behind Agnese's skills) is that even country-wise (or style-wise if you like) it's really tough to pinpoint since it shows so much variance from every single factor affecting it, from the vine all the way to the glass.
    As I'm training for Diploma, I'm starting to mark huge red flags with some aspects of wine: acidity is a big one. It can vary so easily within the same variety that only very broad statements can be said about it, and then when confronting a concrete wine those generalities are of little use.

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад +1

      Sometimes that is true, and for every rule there will be hundreds of exceptions. Therefore when You study wine and deeply pay attention to things, at some point You can get frustrated, because (as You say Yourself) those generalisations doesn’t work! 😂😂😂

    • @juanmanuelmunozhernandez7032
      @juanmanuelmunozhernandez7032 Месяц назад

      @@NoSediment I've found that, also, sometimes we pay "too much attention to detail". Let me explain: you write down a dozen of aromas, but then it's sometimes more useful to look more broadly and ask: What is the dominant cluster of aromas? What's in the back? Yesterday I got a Viognier blind (easiest thing in the world though) and the key to me was to realise, "What kind of grape is more floral than fruity with no spice?"

  • @paulodesousa-mei2380
    @paulodesousa-mei2380 Месяц назад +1

    Dear Agnes
    Hi
    Don't be too hard on yourself
    All blind tastes are
    As you know
    Very difficult
    I know you're on your journey to master sommelier
    But
    Anyway
    You've been working a lot
    And doing a great job
    So
    Be more humble and kind to yourself
    You deserve it
    Cheers 🥂

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад +1

      Thank You very much, such a lovely and supportive comment ! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @deangur
    @deangur Месяц назад +1

    Crazy that out of 4 Pinot none were cheaper than the Burgundy one. It's really hard to find bargains these days I guess

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад +1

      Yes, at least for the Pinot Noir. I was surprised for some of the prices as well. 😅

  • @mepo90189
    @mepo90189 Месяц назад +1

    What I would like to know Agnese, is if these Pinot Noir’s pair well with your Gingerbread cookies. That would be my measure of greatness. Cookie greatness!)

    • @mepo90189
      @mepo90189 Месяц назад +1

      PS. I am jealous because I can only open one bottle at a time!)

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  28 дней назад

      Hahahah, that time of the year is getting closer so we might get to know. 😉

    • @mepo90189
      @mepo90189 28 дней назад +1

      smile@@NoSediment

  • @peterburlin8198
    @peterburlin8198 Месяц назад +1

    Oh you did well Agnese! Pinot Noir is the greatest red wine grape, have to say! Btw what happened to you eye?

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад

      What is with my eye? If You mean the scar - I got hit with the swing when playing with other kids. 🙈

    • @peterburlin8198
      @peterburlin8198 Месяц назад

      @@NoSediment Ouch! Didn’t notice before, thought it was a recent thing, and maybe unnecessary to mention regardless:)

  • @20thcenturyrider82
    @20thcenturyrider82 Месяц назад +1

    oMG i have to Mark this date on my calendar.... Agnes gas failed her First blind wine reveal 😮😅😂

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад

      🥲🥲🥲 it was not the first one, actually. I missed the vintages for the Barolo vertical tasting. Still to this day the most difficult tasting I have done on video! 🍷

  • @bradbellomo6896
    @bradbellomo6896 Месяц назад +1

    How can anyone learn Burgundy at a master of wine level? There are well over 100 Grand Cru and Premier Cru in Cotes de Nuits, and each year is different too. Even if you can keep that straight in your head, you'd need to be a millionaire to afford it, and that's not even all of Burgundy.

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  Месяц назад

      Fortunately to us, there is a lot of theory involved, unfortunately to us, it is best to support that theory with a practical part. Yes, Burgundy is one of those regions which, if You wanted to explore You must have very deep pockets and great friends. 😎

  • @a090006
    @a090006 Месяц назад +1

    Wauw great !

  • @jontraut9396
    @jontraut9396 10 дней назад

    So she knew what she was drinking in the first place? I dont get it. Jadot makes ressonance. She should mention that.

  • @stbu900
    @stbu900 Месяц назад +1

    💯

  • @daverogers5186
    @daverogers5186 17 часов назад

    Nebbiolo Bitter!

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  11 часов назад

      I hope You meant “better” 😂😂😂

  • @shaunsandow2073
    @shaunsandow2073 28 дней назад

    Cloudy bay is not the best - mass produced giant producer…some much better PN around Otago

    • @NoSediment
      @NoSediment  28 дней назад

      I agree, there are definitely better examples. However, their focus is on Sauvignon Blanc, and definitely they are not amongst the lower quality producers, I would say the opposite. Large producer - yes, but that doesn’t mean it is a bad wine. 🍷

  • @vitaliy4005
    @vitaliy4005 Месяц назад +1

    ☺🍷🍷🍷